Thanx Bev for finding this rare footage, that includes an early performance of the title track for the Heart album Desire Walks On. Also a blasting Battle of Evermore and an ultra rare “You and the sun” among others.

Added March 11th: the video says 1993, but it should say 1992. Thanx Javier!

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37 thoughts on “1992 Lovemongers Set

  1. A very short fairy-tale, for adult women:

    There once was a young fair maiden who lived in the village, a daughter of a village merchant.

    She was being slowly courted by a young woodsman, whom she was receptive toward.

    The young fair maiden was chosen to be that spring-celebration’s Queen of May. A visiting mid-level Aristocrat was enamored with the celebration’s chosen beauty, and arranged a marriage agreement with her commoner father.

    The daughter had a very comfortable, but uneventful life. She often recalled being courted by the woodsman, until the day she died.

  2. Do you have the lyrics for “You and the Sun” ?

    I tried listening to the video, but It was hard to hear the vocals enough to understand most of the lyrics. This is a song I don’t believe I’ve ever heard before. I was thinking that it was going to be a variation of “Closer to the Sun”, but its not.

  3. Its not a matter of ignorance.

    Its the uncertainty in what we think we ‘know’, and the phantoms we keep.

  4. I just realized something:

    song: “Desire Walks On”

    song: “Walking Good”

    song: “Walking Away”

    Is there a ‘theme’ going on here ???

  5. I think Nancy might be one of those people, who likes to walk after dark, to think about things. I can see her wandering the “endless streets”, while she ponders her feelings.

  6. Someone asked me about the short fairy-tale I wrote and where it came from.

    The Legend of the Queen of May:

    There is some thought that it comes from a true story that has been corrupted by time.
    The basic story is that a very beautiful, but vain and prideful young girl, is chosen to be the Queen of May,
    and a tragedy results from her betrayal of love. In some versions of the story, she is kind and innocent,
    but tragic circumstances cause her a loss of true love.

    The most well-known version is by the English poet, Lord Alfred Tennyson.
    Led Zeppelin’s, “Stairway to Heaven”, may be another telling of the story.

  7. 1 Peter 1

    The Battle of Evermore

    Is this what They mean by “fight the good fight” ?

  8. Genesis 2
    Welcome The Masses

    The Multitasker

    If your not a leader and not a follower then what are you ?

  9. Interesting find, and interesting performance of Desire Walks On.

    I think the date listed (11/93) is wrong. That’s right when the album DWO was released and Ann says they are in the studio recording. Plus, it sounds like they had some background tape supplying part of the music and I’d guess the song was still being developed based on the arrangement here.

    I know the Lovemongers tended to do most of their performances in 92 so my guess would be that this video is actually from 11/92 instead of 11/93.

  10. I found an obscure poem by Jeffrey Keays that is titled “You and Me”, that also mentions “May” in it. Not that it relates to what we’ve been talking about, but it’s just a fun co-incidence.

    You and me
    There’s nothing left to be
    But who we see
    Where we used to be
    And once were free

    I remember
    Do you remember
    The way it was
    Before this December

    Innocent in May
    You were once this way
    A single day
    The day you left
    Without a word to say
    And went away
    I had to stay
    There was no where else to…

    You and me
    You left me
    Now… you want from me
    What you had from me

    Did you change while you were gone
    Did I change while I waited
    Are you you
    Am I me
    Who is who
    And who are we
    If I was there
    Would you see the me
    Or someone else
    A different me

    Are you the you
    You used to be
    I think I know
    The me is me
    Will always be
    Waiting waiting
    And never free

  11. Christina,

    I searched the net for your poem and author. I only came up with one reference. On a discussion board was a thread for Undiscovered Poets Worth Reading. One suggestion was for a poetry book titled, Touching Infinity, by Jeffrey L. Keays, copyright 2006. It was described as “an edition of ethereal and mysterious nature and sorrowful love poems”. Is this where your poem came from? They said it was a chapbook, which means it could be a monster effort to find that book.

  12. To Jonathan Nearlight: ( I just love your name! )

    I found it on a person’s web page, when I was searching for Nancy Wilson’s “You and Me” videos. I copy and pasted the poem. I tried to go back and find the page for you, but I couldn’t find it again. Also, I searched for the book you were talking about, but I couldn’t find that either.

    Speaking about not finding things—What happened to Nancy’s “Walk Away” video ??? I searched everywhere, but its just gone!!! Its not on You Tube anymore. Carry On Music doesn’t have it either. Nancy seemed so sad in that video. And what was that torn up book, with Cyrillic writing, at the end of the video ??? Inquiring minds want to know !

  13. I think you might be right about the meaning of Stairway to Heaven. It makes more sense than anything else I’ve read. Stairway = Marriage. Heaven = Aristocracy. As a member of the Aristocracy, with a word you can get what you want.

    There are signs that her thinking is wrong and misgiven, but she chooses to ignore the signs. She finds other meanings and explainations, as to why she is making the right choice.

    After a time, she looks toward her old home, and she cries for leaving. She thinks back to seeing the smoke rising from the woodsman’s home in the forest.

    For the rest of her life she is conflicted, between the comfortable life of the Aristocracy, and the genuine love she left behind.

    The humming, the tune, the piper, and the songbird; these are the sounds of her suppressed emotions, which she buried long ago.

    But, feelings buried alive never die !

  14. All this discussion about the May Queen’s mistakes and regrets, and the “Stairway to Heaven” lyrics, makes me wonder about Nancy’s thoughts and feelings within her lyrics and music. Why does she write the type of music she writes? I love the music, but I think she may pay a high price for the ability to write it.

    If I met Nancy in a nearly empty hotel bar, and she asked me what I thought about it all. And the whys of life, this is what I’d say:

    Nancy, do you REALLY want to find what you are looking for? Your feelings within your songs range, from the quiet sadness of dark still waters reflecting the light of a somber moon, to the deep emotional terror of a violent evening thunderstorm. But, the storm’s violent light is when you seem to feel most alive! In that moment, you seem closest to what you lost. There is no emotion that is more passionate than despair. Walk away…, but know that your ghosts will follow you.

    What you seem to want lies beyond that barrier of despair.
    Would you ever take the risk of penetrating the “barrier of despair” ?

  15. All this discussion has caused some restlessness in my mind. I keep occationally getting images and words about it. I decided to write them down on paper. I wrote down a phrase from the DePeche Mode song that Nancy did: “Never again is what you swore”, then I wrote: “What you choose was what was chosen the time before”.

    What happened next was really weird. With that start, I started writing a poem, but it was like watching someone else write a poem. The poem wrote itself. It was like someone else was putting words in my head, and I was just writing them down. In less than 5 minutes, the poem was done. After I wrote the poem, my restless thoughts were gone.

    Here’s the poem:

    What you choose was what was chosen,
    More than once upon a time before.
    Now you’re older than the Elder,
    Of whom you begged the time of more.

    Reign of May to reign of snow,
    Another cycle of come and go.
    Days and nights are fast and slow.
    The less remembered, the more to know.

    Reigning, raining, on your throne,
    Can you go back ? Can you go home ?
    All the glitter that all have seen,
    Blinds the eyes of the little queen.

  16. Christina:

    Are you still out there ?

    I found another poem by Jeffrey Keays. It has some of the same elements as the first poem. Here it is:

    The Waiting

    I cannot find the way to you; but
    Neither can I escape from you.

    So I wait the time, with
    Broken clocks, and
    A future that never comes, and
    A past that will not pass.

  17. Wow, that’s a pretty desolate poem. But also, it reads and hints like there is an Epic love story buried deep within that poem.

    Jon, you now have me wanting to find that book of poems by Jeffrey Keays !

  18. (personal/private comments)

    If you believe the relationship is real, how do you propose to move forward ?

  19. Christina:

    I found two copies of Jeffrey Keays’ poetry book for sale, and I bought them both.

    The book is a plastic bound, 8 1/2″ by 11″, chapbook of 50 pages. The cover art is a watercolor or pastel, of a multi-colored sailboat on a dreary gray overcast day. The book is an Author’s Edition and is a numbered limited edition of 50 copies.

    It has a total of 41 poems, which are obviously copyrighted, so I can’t copy any examples here. An interesting item is listed in the table of contents as, “The Horse Trilogy”, which are 3 poems in a row that have horses in them.

    The dedication page is quirky. It reads:

    “To an old, old friend,
    and her wish of
    strange obsessions…”

    None of the Keays poems we posted here are in the book.

    I think you will like the poems. Some are straight nature poems. Most have a heavy melancholy tone. The last few poems take a turn toward hopefulness. The very last poem is a short 4-line poem, that is actually called “Heart”.

    Send me an email, if you want more details, or are interested in getting my extra copy of the book. I’ve re-activated this old email address for your use: Jonathan.Nearlight@yahoo.com
    Once you send an email, I’ll send you my current active email address.

    The poetry book also lists a publication and correspondence mailing address, if you decide to pursue more information on Jeffrey Keays’ poetry. (Maybe there are more books ?)

    See ya,
    Jon

  20. For fun, I asked an AI generator (Artificial Intelligence) to write a poem based on the above postings. I copy-and-
    pasted all the postings, (except the obsessive/compulsive religious postings), and asked
    for a poem of 4 or less stanzas, in response to the postings.

    I was surprised by the response. It was not about love or angst, it was about ‘time’. So
    I titled the poem “Time”.

    Time

    …in the long run,
    there is still time…
    There is always time…

    Time is a circle, a curse,
    And a spell,
    Forever a void,
    With no one to tell.

    All was made empty,
    All was made night,
    With the sudden departing
    Of the maiden of light.

    Forever is darkness,
    Forever is long.
    I would forfeit the forevers,
    For the dim glow of dawn.

  21. It was fun asking the AI to write poetry, so I asked again in the same way. Would it write the same poem ? Or give me a new one ?

    The AI seemed to recognize I was asking the same question, within the response it wrote back. I titled the poem, “Bloom of the Hawthorn”.

    Bloom of the Hawthorn

    Ask once, twice,
    A thousand times explained,
    The answer once given
    Is always the same.
    You shouldn’t expect thunder,
    Without the rain.

    At the bloom of the hawthorn,
    You well take to the warn,
    If you gather bright flowers and garland,
    Your heart will be torn,
    And wander the gloom
    To the locked gates of morn.

  22. From the Will of Charles Lounsberry:

    ITEM: To lovers, I devise their imaginary world, with whatever they may need, as the stars of the sky, the red roses by the wall, the bloom of the hawthorn, the sweet strains of music, and anything else they may desire to figure to each other the lastingness and beauty of their love.

  23. Jon:

    Did you get my email ? I’ll send you another one. Check your Spam box, if you don’t get it soon.

    I’ve been doing research on the hawthorn tree. It is involved with lots of pagan folklore, more than I ever expected or imagined.

    The hawthorn is also used to make the hedgerows that surround English estates. That helps explain the lyric, “If there’s a bustle in your hedgerow, don’t be alarmed now. It’s just a Spring clean for the May Queen.”

    But that raises a more detailed qustion. Who is causing the “bustle” to convince the May Queen to change the road she is on ? Is it:
    –Her own inner feelings ?
    –Some other person(s) ?
    –Magical forces related to Celtic Pagan folklore ?
    Those are smaller details, though.

    Between the Black Dog guy, the AI generator, and the rest of us, we have explained the mystery of the lyrics to “Stairway to Heaven”. It’s actually a rather simple story. But, the truth is often a simple thing. Robert Plant would be disappointed to know that we figured out his mysterious lyrics. (So, don’t anybody tell him. It’s our special secret !)

    And, if there ever was a real May Queen, in the origins of this ancient story, the powerful karma that she created would take more than a simple “Spring clean”, to undo the damage. But, if she ever has the grace and courage to come home, I think she should be forgiven. It may not have the glitter of gold, but the real treasure of our lives is love.

  24. To better explain “Stairway to Heaven” to a few of my doubting friends, I have re-written the lyrics for them. I thought I’d share the re-write here:

    There’s a lady who’s sure
    All that glitters is gold
    And with her beauty she’s buying a marriage to wealth and privilige.
    When she gets there she knows
    If the stores are all closed
    With her privilige she can get what she came for
    Ooh ooh and with her beauty she’s buying a marriage to wealth and privilige.

    There’s a warning sign her choice is wrong
    But she wants to justify her choice is right
    ‘Cause you know sometimes words and choices have two meanings
    In a tree by the brook
    There’s a songbird who sings and makes her feel
    Like all of her thoughts may be misgiven

    Ooh, it makes me wonder
    Ooh, it makes me wonder

    There’s a feeling she gets
    When she looks toward her old home in the west
    And her spirit is crying for leaving
    In her thoughts she has seen
    Rings of chimney smoke, through the trees, from the woodsman’s home
    And the voices of those people she once knew who stand looking

    Ooh, it makes me wonder
    Ooh, it really makes me wonder

    And it’s whispered that soon, if we all recall our true feelings
    Then our feelings will lead us to reason
    And a new day will dawn
    For those who have waited long
    And the forests of home will echo with laughter

    If there’s an uneasy confusion at the edge of your everyday life
    Don’t be alarmed now
    It’s just your buried feelings coming up to change your way
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by
    But in the long run
    There’s still time to change the road you’re on
    And it makes me wonder

    Your head is humming with buried feelings and it won’t go
    In case you don’t know
    It’s your feelings calling you to join him
    Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow?
    And did you know
    Your marriage lies on the whispering wind?

    And as we wind on down the road of life
    Our shadows taller than our soul from the setting sun of our lives
    There still walks a sad and confused lady we all know
    Who desperately tries to shine white light and wants to show
    How everything may yet still turns to gold
    And if you listen very hard
    Then your true feelings will come to you at last
    When our feelings are one with our lives, yeah
    To be a stable rock of true feelings and not to roll along confused about your life

    And she’s buying a stairway to Heaven.

  25. I have been having lots of fun with AI. Based on the postings here, I asked the AI to write song lyrics with a happy ending.
    The AI was very stubborn. It was reluctant to give me what I wanted. It kept writing lyrics that were all questions. Below is the best set of lyrics I got. I titled the song, “Backwards”.

    Backwards

    Can you go back?
    Back to what was?
    Back to before?
    Back to innocence?
    Back to love?

    Is the only way forward,
    A thousand steps back?

    Can you walk backwards?
    Past the sorrows?
    Past the choices?
    Past the misgivings?
    Past the pain?

    Is the only way forward,
    Ten thousand steps back?

    Is it lonely walking backwards?
    Can walking backwards be shared?
    Will you hold hands walking backwards?
    If there’s a stumble walking backwards,
    Will you never let go?

    Is the only way forward,
    A million steps back?

    I finally gave up asking for my happy-ending song.
    In frustration, I asked the AI generator, “Who would you like to write song lyrics for?”
    The AI answered, “Carly Rae Jepsen.”
    I asked, “Why?”
    The AI answered, “Because, I like the teenage innocence of her album, Kiss.”

    This AI generator is getting to know me, way too well !!!

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